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Postby miker_alpha » Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:01 pm

hmmm i don't know of any "how to start your own web server box" tutorials anywhere,


The easiest and possibly most comprehensive newbie guide to configuring Apache is IMO "Apache: The definitive guide" published by O'Reilly

Having said that, it covers Apache only, no MySQL, TP, mail, etc.

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Postby DenisF » Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:29 pm

Yeah, there are alot of server-specific books/faqs/guides out there, but nothing [afaik] that will teach you how to start up a hosting server from the ground up
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Postby afonic » Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:16 am

OK I got the server.

Usermin / Apache / MySQL installed, still searching for all the rest. I will let you know how it goes.
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Postby afonic » Wed Jun 23, 2004 1:24 am

Test page:
<a href='http://64.251.10.181:443/' target='_blank'>http://64.251.10.181:443/</a>

FTP seems OK, even though I didn't installed anything! Just tried port 21 and it worked!
Having a look at DNS now.
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Postby afonic » Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:34 am

OK I can't understand what's up with the DNS servers.

The told me that in the email:

NAMESERVER INFORMATION:
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Your Server makes DNS queries to
THING2.INFOLINK.COM: 64.251.6.3
(This DNS server does not host your domains DNS information)

In the webmin I see a BIND DNS Server (which I can't try how to set up).
Do you know what I need to do in order to move a domain? I don't understand these ports thing (for setting up visual Apaches).
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Postby DenisF » Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:22 pm

The dns server which they gave ya [64.blablabla] is the DNS server that you should setup your machine to resolve things with.

i assume you picked linux?

open up /etc/resolv.conf
and add this "nameserver 64.251.6.3" [without the quotes]

now if you wanna host your own domain on that machine, you need to setup bind on the server itself, add the domain there info there [it's pretty self explainatory, especially with things like webmin], and in your domain registrar's page - set the domain's dns server to your server's ip.
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Postby afonic » Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:39 pm

I picked RedHat. Yeah, this is already there.

What I don't understand is that:
let's say I want to move www.dvd-guides.com to my new server. I have created a user named afonic and created a virtual apache server that has as root /home/afonic/public_html so that I can connect via FTP and upload my files. This virtual server runs at port 443 (it's the link I gave you before).

Now if I want to point my domain there what should I do? The domain needs 2 DNS servers, I should point it to my IP in both 2 of them?

Anyway, other things where OK, I am just stuck with WebMin, it does not explain things that well. Hopefully HTTP, MySQL, PHP and FTP are OK, I am stuck with DNS matters and email.
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Postby DenisF » Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:42 pm

Like i said, add dvd-guides.com in bind [via webmin]

and point your domain name to the ip of your server [if it needs two ips, just put it there twice]
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Postby afonic » Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:46 pm

Actually it has 4 options!
master, slave, stub and forward zone!
I need to read, oh yeah!

I think i'll read this, do you know a better one?
<a href='http://www.swelltech.com/support/documentation.html' target='_blank'>http://www.swelltech.com/support/documentation.html</a>
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Postby afonic » Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:16 pm

Do you think that for me that want to host multiple domains, something like VirtualMin should be usefull?

<a href='http://www.swelltech.com/support/virtual-servers/index.html' target='_blank'>http://www.swelltech.com/support/virtual-servers/index.html</a>
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Postby DenisF » Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:26 pm

Yup, should be helpful when you start multi-hosting
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Postby afonic » Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:59 pm

This was very cool, it seems to set-up everything (Apache,MySQL,Mail,DNS) with just some settings. Tomorrow I will test transfering my first domain (mp3-guides.com) and make the final settings. Then you will have a look (yes you are!) and make sure most of the settings are OK before I transfer DVD-guides.com

PS. If any of you want to speak, use IP 64.251.10.180 and TeamSpeak, you may find me there! (http://www.teamspeak.org).
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Postby DenisF » Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:54 pm

Then you will have a look (yes you are!) and make sure most of the settings are OK before I transfer DVD-guides.com

Sure, no problemo :)

PS. If any of you want to speak, use IP 64.251.10.180 and TeamSpeak, you may find me there! (http://www.teamspeak.org).

People can bearly understand what i type, and u wanna hear me talk? :lol:
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Postby afonic » Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:01 pm

Look, English is not my main language too, so we are going to communicate just fine.

I'm stuck right now because my host's control panel does not accept IPs as DNS servers! WTF!
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Postby DenisF » Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:41 pm

Weird :s
here's a wacko idea, register a static domain at <a href='http://www.dyndns.org/services/statdns/' target='_blank'>dyndns.org</a>, (and point it to your server's ip, ofcourse] and use that instead of the ip..

should work :s

[you have one heck of a weird host, btw]
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Postby afonic » Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:38 pm

Even that does not work.

I registered 2 of them afonic1 and afonic2.gotdns.com and pointed them to 64.251.10.180 but no joy (DNS change failed).
When I use the IP I get a "Please provide a valid value" message.
I sent an email and wait for an answer.

Another question, what should I put in DNS2? Webmin creates the server only in the first IP I have, logically I will have no secondary server?
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Postby DenisF » Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:40 pm

The question is; do you need a secondary server? :)
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Postby afonic » Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:55 pm

1) No because if the servers goes down my site is not accessable anyway.

2) Yes because the control panel needs a second DNS.

How would a secondary server help in my situation?
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Postby DenisF » Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:49 pm

1) exactly where i was getting :)

2) fsck the control panel, transfer your domains to a different company.

2.5(3?))in your situation, it wouldn't help at all.
it's just a redundancy thing mate.

ie if server1 doesn't respond, the client's PC goes for server2, then server 3 and so forth.

But in your case, since both the DNS server and the webserver itself are on the same box - if either goes down, your site is basicly dead. [don't mean to sound negative, just technical]

So absolutly no need for any other DNS servers.
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Postby sjaz » Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:30 pm

Most places wont accept nameservers as IP's...


Domain servers in listed order:

NS2.ANAME.NET 195.35.82.102
GATE.POLARHOME.COM 81.216.198.11
NS2.SOMBOR.COM 212.200.58.1

titanium#


Thats polarhome's.

You can setup freebie DNS as denis said. That'll do the job.
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